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Crime against foreigners in the Philippines

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My wife and I feel  safe living in the Philippines.  Now we live in a house we built in a rural area, on a dead end road with no close neighbors. When we first moved to Iloilo City we lived in an unusually secure private compound in Iloilo City.  We didn’t even have to consider security.  We could leave our doors open if we want to.  We have ridden jeepneys everywhere.  I have literally walked more than a thousand of miles on the streets of Iloilo City and lonely rural paths in the country.  I have never had the slightest problem.  No one has robbed me or threatened me or tried to pick my pocket or done anything but treat me with respect and kindness.  The worst crime we have been a victim of is being overcharged for shrimp in the public market.  Many expats have similar experiences.

Nonetheless, when I read posts by expats saying that there’s no more crime in the Philippines than there is in the USA, I’m concerned.  Americans from LA or Baltimore or Miami might not see much difference. (See this article in the New York Times about the psychology of “lock” and “no lock” advocates.) For small-town Americans, the Philippines can be quite different.   Enthusiasm for their new life in the Philippines, thinking that the situation Philippines is the same as life in the US can prevent foreigners from taking common sense precautions to provide for their own safety in the Philippine context.

I’ve been following news of murders of foreigners in the Philippines for several years. There are quite a few, considering how few foreigners there are in the Philippines.  Here are a few observations which might be of help to anticipate problems.

  • Most violence against foreigners is not perpetrated out of desperation by the poor Filipino whose family needs food or medicine.  Perhaps we are projecting on to Filipinos our own perceptions of what we would do in such circumstances.  Most provincial Filipinos would never commit such acts.  They accept what comes their way as part of God’s plan.
  • I believe that murders are generally not by the desperate acting out of real need, but rather by those as a way to “get rich quick”, often by maids, casual workers and boyfriends who have some knowledge, association and access to the foreigner victims.  The operative influences are greed, sex, booze and shabu (methamphetamine) — not helping a sick or hungry family member.
  • Almost all the murders of foreigners I have read of have occurred in the foreigner’s hotel or apartment or home, not in bars, not on the streets, not by the Muslim extremists.  Most of these murders been been committed by people the victim knew or people associated with these people, not by a strangers breaking into their house.
  • By far, the most common perpetrators are:
  1. the boyfriend of the foreigner’s wife or young girlfriend,
  2. the maid’s boyfriend,
  3. some relative of the girlfriend, wife or the maid.
  4. Ex-employees are another possibility.

These murderers usually don’t break in. They are let in, either knowingly by the foreigner or by one of the other parties mentioned, or they take advantage of security vulnerabilities they have observed or learned of.  The foreigner is killed because he resists or because the robber is known to him and he does not want to be caught.  Sometimes the accomplice maid or girlfriend is “tied-up” and reports the crime to neighbors or police when she gets free.  I have read of many of foreigners murdered in this way.

  • If you are a Caucasian foreigner and stay out of dangerous areas in Mindanao, you probably don’t need to worry about being kidnapped.  Except for Mindanao, kidnappers generally target rich Chinese-Filipinos (Chinoys).  Generally, they pay ransom without going to the police.  The police have been reported to be involved in such kidnappings.  Some foreign businessmen and aid workers have been kidnapped, usually Japanese.  Remember, the vast majority of retirees are pensioners who live on modest retirement pensions — not good kidnap ransom targets.  Kidnapping a rich Chinoy businessman really boils down to negotiations over the size of the ransom.  Kidnapping a foreigner invites complications.
  • If you do have a lot of money, keep it in a foreign bank.  Information about your bank balances in your Philippine bank are not necessarily secure. Don’t brag about or discuss your finances with any one, including other foreigners.  Make sure everyone is aware that you are living off of a pension, that when you die the money stops.  Don’t have a safe in the house.  Everyone will assume it is full of money, even if it’s not. Don’t withdraw large amounts of cash from your bank account.  There have been cases where bank employees sent text messages about large withdrawals to accomplices outside the bank.  The foreigner was robbed at gunpoint.  Pay for major purchases (vehicle, house) with a manager’s check from your Philippine bank.

Ordinary break-ins are also a problem.   We have friends whose house was broken into the very first night they stayed there.  Luckily they slept through the experience. Break-ins are very common in their open subdivision in Iloilo.  See http://myphilippinelife.com/our-philippine-house-project-security/ for how we built security into our new Philippine house.

Here,  just about everyone goes into some level of lock-down at night.  If you’re prosperous you’ll have a concrete wall and iron grates on your windows  If you’re poor you’ll have a bamboo fence and gate, bamboo grates on your windows.  All have a four-legged alarm system — if poor, a mutt, if richer a Doberman.  If you leave something out at night, it might well be gone in the morning.  Well-to-do Filipinos move to gated subdivisions.

The wall of Lo Wai, a wall village in Lung Yeuk Tau, Fanling, Hong Kong

The wall of Lo Wai, a walled village in Lung Yeuk Tau, Fanling, Hong Kong

Some foreigners feel it’s distasteful and/or unnecessary to live in a walled compound.  In our view that’s naïve. Every Filipino who can afford it lives behind walls and gates.  Do they do this because they are paranoid about crime?  We assume it’s because they are know what it takes to be safe in their own country.  Walled cities, walled compounds, are everywhere in developing countries and historically a response to insecurity. Think of the lovely walled cities of Europe; Italy, Portugal, Spain and China. They were not built to make better scenery for tourists!

Don’t expect your neighbors, security guards or police to come to your aid if you get into problems at night.  It’s dangerous for them to get involved, just as it may be dangerous for you to intervene to help someone in the middle of the night.  A well-liked, long-time American resident of Iloilo City was recently stabbed to death in his apartment.  Neighbors suspected something was wrong.  After all, the American was a big guy, a martial arts enthusiast, being murdered by four young men.  The neighbors were very close, in a close-packed neighborhood.  It’s hard to imagine there was not a lot of noise.  The neighbors peeked in the windows in the morning and the guy was dead.  Any neighbor coming to his aid might well have been killed too.  Some news accounts tried to portray this murder as the possible work of a New People’s Army “sparrow” assassination unit.  This is far-fetched. The NPA does not generally stab and rob ordinary American retirees in their home at night in the city.

A stable, monogamous married life is prudent.  A taste for young boys has gotten many foreigners into trouble.  Chasing young women can also expose you to all sorts of dangers; from her jealous or conniving boyfriend or from her family.

If you live in a city, living in a gated, guarded subdivision probably is safer.  It’s not perfect, but low-life characters may find it a bit harder, bit more intimidating, more frightening to get in at night, and a bit harder to flee.  This only applies to subdivisions with real security including roving patrols at night.  It’s no accident that Filipinos move to such subdivisions if they can afford it.  Many subdivisions put up a show of security with a fancy guardhouse, but often anyone is allowed in.

Secure subdivisions don’t exist outside the bigger cities and may be less necessary, but don’t fool yourself.  Many foreigners have been killed in their bucolic rural homes. Foreigners like my wife and I can happily report that they have lived in such and such a place for two or three or five years and have never had a problem.   We don’t feel such anecdotal tidbits really prove anything.

Observe how affluent Filipinos provide for their security.  As mentioned earlier. foreigners sometimes belittle walls, and gated subdivisions and other security precautions that seem over-done or distasteful from an American or European perspective, as though they know better than Filipinos what the dangers are and how to provide security.

Here a few specific security suggestions:

  • Keep gates locked at all times and doors at night.  Night means after dark.
  • Don’t leave your home unattended for any extended period of time and certainly not overnight.  If you are away, have a family member or trusted maid stay in the home.
  • Maintain good control over who comes into your compound or house, especially at night.  Unless you really trust your maid, make sure she can’t let people in.  Once again, if you are murdered, it’s probably because you or someone else let the killer in.  Recently a foreign retiree was watching TV with his wife.  The dog started to bark.  The man opened the door to see what the problem was.  He was immediately stabbed in the stomach by an intruder waiting there.  He died on the way to a hospital.
  • Have one or more noisy dogs. Have the police emergency number programmed into your cellphone and keep your cellphone in your bedroom.  Consider a secure bedroom door and don’t challenge any burglar.  If someone breaks in, stay in your bedroom and let them steal what they like.  Have a very loud panic alarm and lights when can be switched on from your locked bedroom.

In the comments below, Jerry says,  ”It is definitely unwise to join a ‘inuman’ or ‘drinking’ party by yourself. Especially if you don’t know the people really well.”  We concur with this advice 110%.  When you are with inebriated men and women and you are also inebriated, a wrong move or comment can easily escalate into something violent.  A comment or flirtation which would be acceptable in your home may provoke anger in another culture.

We love living in the Philippines.  Many expats may feel these comments to be excessively alarmist.  Most Filipinos would not.  (See Josh’s comments below.)  These comments are intended to help you stay safe, not to frighten. These precautions will become second nature to you.

Also see the excellent  security recommendations of the U.S. Embassy.

78 Comments

  1. Good article and some great comments.

    I think what traveling to a new area (or living in one)…foreign or domestic…boils down to is you need common sense and situational awareness. Its really as simple as that. Surely, you can get help along the way…and tips from people who are in the know are good….but the above two attributes will do more for you than anything else.

    Im a white male from VA. Grew up near Norfolk…spent a good 10 years in Richmond. Both of those areas can be highly sketchy, and by and large, are seen as two of the rougher cities in VA, if not the whole of the US. Yet, im comfortable in both. Its all about not being completely oblivious to your surroundings and maintaining some basic level of street savvy.

    My wife is from Jaro, Iloilo. Ive been there twice now, and honestly, I love it there. Huge culture shock at first (never being out of the US) and undoubtedly I had a large advantage having wonderful in-laws there that can bridge the social gap…but I can think of places in Baltimore worse than some of the spots in the Phils, frankly.

    It is quite odd being a towering white guy there…you do tend to get stared at and draw attention while walking around at SM lol…but everyone ive met is friendly. Would I go flashing money around obliviously and displaying expensive gadgets? No. I wouldnt do that on the Metro in DC either.

    Is it a little more difficult to know which neighborhoods to stay out of when there the first time? Yea, maybe. Things certainly dont look like they do in the states, but really, the inner city and the rough patches have the same vibe regardless of what country youre in….usually you can tell immediately from the looks you get from people. If some thuggish looking cats are eyeballing you menacingly….chances are you probably should leave.

    I will say, having people you know from the area youre going to in the philippines is immensely helpful. That does cut down on people who may want to try to pull a fast one on you. Either that or take the time to learn tagalog, ilonngo, or whatever dialect of the area youre going to. Again, common sense. If you go to any foreign country and you obviously look like youre not from there…chances are if someone wants to pull one on you…the easiest way is to use the language barrier against you.

    Id certainly recommend going to the Philippines….and Iloilo….to anyone wanting to check out that part of the world. Its wonderful. Just do it smart and youll have a great time!

  2. i live in the philippines & you say people are smart well i find the opposite, they dont seem to know anything about anything. Another thing they said if a burglar is in your house dont confront him, are you kidding, i will kill him if i catch one in my house. Ive been robbed here when i first moved here & we had a small restaurant. Crime is rife & it might not seem to bad as there isnt much reporting of it. Two weeks ago our friends son a policeman came home from work at 1 am & was putting the trash out. His wife heard a shot & looked out the window & he was down on both knees begging to not be killed but he shot him in the body a further 8 times. I havent seen it on the news. What makes big news here is if 2 celebrities have a fight. That is more imprtant than the murder of a young policeman.

  3. Why the hell would anyone want to voluntarily live in the Philippines? Visit, yet. Live there, hell no! I was born there but moved to L.A. with my family when I was 10. I’m one of the very fortunate ones who got to escape the poverty that surely would have awaited me there. Now, I’m as American as apple pie (I don’t even have an accent which baffles Filipinos who immigrated here later in life). The Philippines is in a very sad state and the rampant government corruption is all to blame. Filipinos are educated, smart and ambitious people. But greedy bastards who hold power there are more interested in lining their pockets instead of improving the quality of life for their own countrymen–the country’s most precious resource. The Philippines should have been the 51st state in the United States. Back in the day, they should not have insisted independence because they weren’t ready for it. Philippines could have been another Hawaii and would have served a key strategic military base especially nowadays with stuff going on in North Korea. Philippines could have been an American paradise. Instead, it’s an Asian toilet bowl. The Philippines need their own version of Abraham Lincoln who would free the people from being enslaved by the corrupt and the selfish. I wish I could be that man–I really do. But I’m not.

    • Joel,

      Many thanks for your comments. They are provocative, but as a Filipino you have every right to hold and express them. I can only say that as a foreigner, I have little contact with government officials and when I do it’s generally fine. I promised myself that I would not get involved in any business in the Philippines. Mostly, I live amongst ordinary Filipinos and, in generally it’s a pleasure. I do think things are getting better. Of course this is the personal perspective of a old retired foreigner who is not involved in business or politics or much of anything else. If I was in business or politics here or otherwise engaged here, I might have a very different perspective.

      Bob

  4. Our brother was murdered in Palawan in June 2011. with a lot of effort from us and with the help of two retired UK police officers we did manage to identify two suspects and warrants went out for their arrest. Nothing further happened, No effort made to track them down. Then finally the PNP decided that it was suicide, the arrest warrants withdrawn, and the case closed. Cause of death incidental death by drowning. The matter of his throat being slashed and being hit on the back of the head, and evidence of a beating being ignored. I only write this as a warning to those thinking of living or working in the Philippines.

  5. Hi, my friend invited me to go with her to the Philippines in September for a month to stay with her mom and dad and family. I am from the USA and someone at the store today told me that she was from there and said to be careful since I have fair skin and I could be a target? Idk just scared me… Should I have anything to worry about? I’m terrified now

    • Cameo,

      Of course. without more details, it’s hard to give an educated opinion. In general, I’d advise against going to Mindanao, although some Mindanao places are fairly safe and others definitely unsafe. That’s where most kidnappings of foreigners occur. If your friend is a close friend and seems to have common sense, she and her family will generally be obligated to ensure your safety. Don’t get drunk, stay away from drunk men, go out with your friend, not alone. The Philippines is generally a safe place for single women. You’ll likely have a great experience.

      Bob

  6. THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY…MY LIFE IN THE PHILIPPINES .

    It all started back in 2006, about February when I went into a dating Website and found what I will call Miss X, from Davao City in the Philippines . She came across as welcoming and sincere, telling me that she was only poor but wanted happiness for her and her baby (That she admitted that she had tried to abort). Both my Father and daughter from my first marriage actually pleaded with me to let it go and not visit Miss X, which I intended to do in June of that year. During the time we first met on the Internet until much later on in our relationship I sent her money, clothing, magazines on a weekly basis and even a camera!

    In June of that year I went to Davao City , and on arrival was greeted at the Airport by Miss X, her Mother and a number of relatives. We all went out to lunch which I paid for and I should have realized at the time that something was wrong when her Uncle said had I got an International Credit Card. For these two weeks we stayed in a large apartment, and so did half of Miss X and her relatives, with me paying for everything. Even one morning another relative pleaded for PHP8,000 which I stupidly gave as he claimed his sons were ill and needed medical attention. (Later I found out this was a lie).

    I got engaged to Miss X during these two weeks. We had a small party in the apartment, against the wishes of Miss X’s Mother who would have rather had a party fit for Imelda Marcus and her cronies!! During this period arrangements were made for Miss X and Her Mother to take an apartment at Landmark Three in Sasa, which I would pay for, as I decided to return to Cairns , Australia , resign my job at the Shangri-la Hotel and return to Davao . We chose a modern apartment that my Mother in Law of the future said was PHP5,000 per month which I later found out was a thousand less per month. The scamming had begun.

    I returned to Australia and came back to Miss X in Davao . During this time up until the marriage at the Halls of Justice on May 12th , there were a lot of warning signs that I chose to ignore, partly to prove to my daughter and Father that I was right and they were wrong, but as you will see from this story how wrong I was !!

    Miss X started to steal money from me that I left around, relatives were invited to stay at my expense and I paid for a nanny for Miss X’s baby girl. This in itself was a mistake as this gave Miss X freedom, like one night late telling me she was going to church (Midnight) but I saw a bottle of Vodka sticking out of her handbag!! Later I was advised she often met other “Boys” to have a good time
    .
    We ahd some good times flying together to places such as Manila, Leyte, Negros and other parts of the Philippines staying in good hotels. Bought a second hand car that my Mother in Law later stole and sold.

    I blundered on ignoring the warning signs and got married hoping that Miss X would become more responsible as she matured. But I was wrong and things only got worse. The Marriage day was very disappointing for me, and one of the saddest days of my life. My daughter flew in from Australia , but that was all – even Mrs Dagger Mother in law boycotted the wedding after I refused to pay for a lavish affair befitting a Prince and Princess.

    As my employment meant a lot of traveling to places in Thailand, Indonesia, Singapore, South Africa, Vietnam, Mauritius and Maldives I was away a great deal and as they say whilst the Cat is Away, the Mice do Play”, and Mrs Dagger got up to.all sorts of adulterous mischief. I did take her to Thailand and the Maldives , where in the latter location she enjoyed her days swimming and drinking “Sex on the Beach” Cocktails. During this time I received emails from her boyfriends telling me to leave her, as she and her Mother only wanted money from me and nothing else.

    Mrs Dagger then returned to Davao and I remained on another working project in Bangkok. She advised me that her Mother had stolen/taken everything from the Apartment, back to their farm/home in Padada. When I returned to Davao I got some of the items back, but I had to also spend thousands more replacing items. Depression set in and I knew that the end was coming and I went to Cebu leaving my wife and her baby,

    In Cebu I made many friends, many of which I still have. I went downhill with depression, attempted suicide and had to con my Father on many occasions to
    get money from him to survive and I slid into drinking very heavily.

    I decided to give it one more go – Me and Mrs Dagger! Stayed in a hotel in Digos near Padada, and then It was suggested I go and live on their farm. Lefty an outstanding Hotel Account with my Passport as security until my Mother In Law,
    Paid the Account. Never seen my Passport since! Life on the farm was good at first as I was negotiating an overseas working contract, and that meant money. Once that fell through both Mrs Dagger and her evil Mother wanted me out and openly encouraged me to commit suicide. Saw some of my stolen property on the Farm and witnessed them tampering with Electric cables/Meters to reduce their Electricity Bill, and they admitted that they never paid any taxes whatsoever for farm produce sold, they motor repair shop or Sari Sari store. They felt they were above the law!!

    I had to run from Padada and returned to Davao where I ran into more trouble, staying with people who did not like Mrs Dagger, but were passing back information about me to her and her Mother. Stayed here and there as now was getting Death Threats, and even stayed with another person who took me off the street, whom I later found out was a convicted Killer. My health was going downhill rapidly with Pneumonia, Electrolyte In balance and Kidney problems and I spent many nights in SPMC Hospital .

    Then it was to Co Su Guin – Home for the Aged. A good modern Establishment, but lacking any form of real security or confidentiality of the patients. The management was weak and some of the male staff negligent in their duty.
    There were two occasions where the breach of Confidentiality could have resulted in harm to me or death and that is no exaggeration. The one saving grace in that establishment was the female head nurse that was magnificent.

    Then I thought I was saved again being taken out of that place, but alas it was out of the Lions Den and into the Lions mouth, and for many reasons I was soon on the run again after another Death Threat. I wandered the streets, spent one night in hospital again, another night in protective custody at a Police Station, where they gave me accommodation and food. Then as I was sitting beside Laurel Avenue on the steps of a derelict building a good Samaritan saw me, and took me in into their home where I am now. Other people have helped me and one in particular who I will call “Hot Potato”.

    Immigration do not want to deport me, but eventually I should get out on an “Indigency Plan back to Australia I hope. But I need Justice as my scheming, adulterous, defrauding, thieving and fiendish wife has Bankrupted me, and basically just wants me to pass away. The PHP2,5 million I have spent on her has gone and she is now moving from foreigner to foreigner doing the same old thing, grabbing money with the help of her Mother. She ahs just had a Baby with her Japanese boyfriend, so all I can say she is proud of what she is doing and will continue to do so until the law decides to do something about her and her mother. Finally I still love the Philippines .

    Richard H Dagger
    Secret Location.
    Republic of Philippines

  7. Hi,
    Thanks for the info provided above. I am moving to San Juan, Southern Leyte in July for 8months as part of a AusAid project that aims to establish coastal resource management etc. in the region. I am hoping that someone may have some handy hits ot tips that might be useful whilst I am over there. Whilst I am a pretty savy, street smart, 27 years old Australian lady, to be honest, I am a little be scared as I will be there alone.

    • Hi Leia,

      I feel there are few places safer for a woman than the Philippines. I’d say you should follow the same precautions as a male. Be cautious about going out at night by yourself and stay away from drunk men. I suggest dressing conservatively. Provincial women are generally quite modest. Dress that may be routine in Australia might be considered risque in the Philippine provinces and might spark unspoken questions about your morals, or unwanted attention from men.

      I’m sure you’ll enjoy your visit and love it in the Philippines.

      Bob

  8. Great article, for me crime in the Philippines is no different then the crime in the U.S. . Being in the wrong place at the wrong time will get you in a pickle , like hanging out in bars latenight. Also the company you keep will get you in trouble as well. I do believe the Philippines has a high level of home invasions, it seems everyday I am hearing about someone getting their house broken into or something stole out of their yard. But for someone to say the Philippines is safer then the U.S. it’s simple not true. A small town in Kentucky is way safer then a small province in the Philippines, but I feel a major U.S. city is more dangerous then a big city in the Philippines.

  9. hello and good day to everyone.

    I have read some comments here about situations in Philippines. I have been in Manila several times trying to start some trading but it seem like theres just too much cheating and bad paymaster. Given the opportunity, is it filipino still rather resort to cheat than seeking long term benefits. I don’t see why it is not possible to find a trustworthy or ethical filipino. I was forewarned never to trust filipino no matter who. But i thought to give these people i met a try. So far, 10 out of 10 has proven all these warning are true. Is it not possible to just trust anyone here in small business dealings. Are they not thinking clear enough that long term benefits are better? How are they expect to bring themselves out of their poverty if they choose to cheat and steal than going for long term benefits? Perhaps someone can share their thoughts or experiences. Is there somekind of forum or organisation that assist foreigners there in Philippines? I am now having doubt about Philippines.

    Kind regards.

    • David,

      My experience is that sometimes the relationships between individuals counts for a great deal. If you have a long-standing “suki” relationship, you may be treated with scrupulous ethics. If you are a foreigner in Manila trying to set up a business, you may be viewed as legitimate prey. I guess it’s situational ethics and to me it seems more prominent in the Philippines than in the U.S. As I have said elsewhere, the construction crew that built our house were highly honest, even in the small things, I would say more so than in the U.S. We treated our crew well, and they treated us well. When I moved to the Philippines, I resolved not to be engaged in any business or investments.

      Bob

  10. Hi. My husband and I and our two GSD dogs are planning to move to the Philippines. We are pkanning to build a house in Batangas, 30 minutes from tagaytay. Is las pinas a goid area to rent a house while building and to keep our dogs safe as well? I was born in the PI, but grew up in the states. I can still speak tagalog fluently. I just want to make sure my huband will be safe. Any input will be greatly appreciated.

    • Hi Ruth,
      I m from Las Pinas…and yes, I’d say it’s safe to live in las pinas area as long as its in a subdivision with a gate and guards roving 24/7. There’s plenty…try BF Resorts area.

  11. I have 4 houses, in 4 different locations.. so I can tell you out of experience, it is safer in the provinces, less so in Manila. It can be very dangerous. locals do not drive without locking all doors… another serious problem is police corruption. Thieves and officials “work together”. This is actually one large organised crime nation. Local journalists said to me “we are a nation of corrupt individuals”. Forget about police protecting you. Business investment is far too risky. When you get robbed, police will say “it is a civil matter”. Even police chief can not help you here, out of experience. Systemic corruption is also lack of will to implement the laws on the books, not just direct financial incentive to twist it.
    In short, beware, never invest, never trust locals in business transactions, remember that police is NOT your friend, if you are a law abiding person. It is an up side down world here. Keep safe!

  12. Hello,

    I want you to know that I have been enjoying reading from this site, as the advice and information is very interesting. I’m not going to be retiring in the Philippines, but I’m wondering if I could be given some advice anyway, if it’s not too much trouble and if you don’t mind.

    Recently I’ve been considering moving to the Philippines for a few years to attend school, since it is much cheaper and generally much faster. My mother is from the Philippines, so I find relative peace in the fact that I will be living with family during the duration of my stay; however, I’m usually quite independent and like to explore alone, so I’m curious about what dangers that would present. Should I only go out when family accompanies me and wait until I’m familiar with the area before venturing out alone? I will be grateful for any advice, really. Should I beware of anything, even when it comes to something like dating? I doubt that will come up, but I’d certainly appreciate a little insight, just in case. If I’m partly caucasian but have some asian features, will they notice that I’m a foreigner at first glance? Haha, I remember my mother telling me to act like I didn’t know her and not to talk to her when we were in the marketplace, because she thought the vendors would immediately raise the price if they saw I was American.

    I’m just wondering about the general precautions I should take and feel that I will get more objective advice from someone who has been living in the country and is not family :)

    Thank you very much for taking the time to read this.

    • An answer to your question about safety in the Philippines must consider where it is you plan to live. For example, a place like Iloilo is (in my opinion) much safer than Manila. A major factor is your own common sense about the risks you take. If you behave prudently in a place like Iloilo, I feel it’s very safe. Really, it’s no differnet than living in an American city. It can be very safe or very dangerous depending on your own behavior. You can find guidelines here and elsewhere on how to stay safe in the Philippines.

      Regarding going to college here, a big factor is whether you are fluent in the local dialect spoken. Classes in most big colleges are supposed to be taught in English, but the English skills of the instructors and your fellow students might not be perfect. Dialog can shift out of English and into the local dialect. This is not an insurmountable problem. If they know they have and English-only classmate, everyone will probably bend over to help you understand. Still you may be left wondering about what is being said some of the time. We sent my Tagalog speaking niece to school in Iloilo City. Her English was fairly good but she had some trouble because classroom conversation often drifted into Hilagaynon, the local dialect.

      Don’t expect most Philippine colleges to be equal to Stanford or the University of Michigan. Expect something closer to a community college education. This is only my opinion. If I’m wrong let me know.

      Overall, I think you’ll be fine. Maybe some will try to take advantage of you, but this will be hugely outweighed by people who are especially nice to you because you are a foreigner — even more so if you are a young foreigner.

      Bob

    • Hello Jin. I would check into your education here being excepted any where else?

      The standard of schooling here in the Philippines is sub-standard and is widely not excepted in other countries, resulting in re-schooling.

      I know that any degree from the Philippines is not excepted in the US.

      Be aware Filipinos all have this crab mentality, are very jealous in nature, and way to much pride, you better know someone well before going any where with them.

      If you are American everyone will want to be your friend, everyone, and assume that you are rich.

      Use your head, and think while here, to friendly, to good to be true, are signs.

      Good luck, be careful

  13. Everyone, local and foreigner, needs to understand, that there are 4 economic class levels and 3 township levels…Just is in the USA, you also have the criminal mentality…No amount of God, faith or religion, will help these types of people, not even money, even the rich commits crimes, but it should be noted, that 98.99% of the locals, are free from felonious types of crimes…Sure, scales will be fixed, bus fares, over changed, nothing different than in the US, now with the influx of 3rd world thinking, but we so called, free world people need to understand accept the 4 economic classes and 3 township classes, in someone else country…No one is forcing us to live here…Inherently, cities have and bread crime, because you have all 4 of the economical classes living in one very dense city…Not large in size, but densely populated…You have the ultra poor, trying to live day to day in a very costly city, the ultra elites pushing them down, you have what we call, the lower middle class and middle class, being victims as well of…More Pinoys are victims of crimes, per-capita, than the so called, foreigner, and as with both, some ask for…If you are involved, in less than ethic environments, you are playing in their ball park, not yours…Places such as bard, discos, over drinking, driving to fast, being involved in an archaic foreign countries politics, is their turf, not ours and if we inter it, we are, in their eyes, either trespassing, or fair game…Are there, innocent victims, yes, of course, I am older, retired, but not stupid, but very few of them, most allow themselves to be victims…Because someone, local, or not, sets himself, or herself up as a victim, deserve to be a victim, or give permission to scum bags, to commit crimes? No, not at all, but it is inviting trouble…The Philippines, over all, even in larger cities, have a lower crime rate, than their sister cities in the USA…There are cities in the USA, where a Caucasian cannot even walk, and not be killed, just for being white…That does not happen, in the Philippines…It was a culture shock for me, to move from a almost crime free city in Orange Country, were you could leave your house unlocked, windows down on your car, and no bars on your window, but it is worth it, because the town I can from, is a dying breed…More and more cities in the US are going bad, while I feel, the Philippines, is getting better…Look at Cebu and Davao, perfect examples

  14. Thanks for taking time to post this info/comments, very thought provoking. Each of us living here needs to be security conscious, aware of our surroundings, and prepare ourselves for living and traveling around the country.
    Every time Myrna and I pass through Tigbuan I say “we should stop and see Bob and Carol.” I waited too long to stop and see Paul. You guys need to visit San Jose as well. We have a nice guest bedroom you can use. All the best, be safe.

  15. Totally disagree.

    I am returning to the USA soon due to the high volume of crimes against foreigners here in the Philippines. Murders galore, gangs robbing banks close to Xmas time, Bombs in the Malls by Abuzajaff the muslin terrorist group that travels from the south up north to Manila to bomb the malls.

    http://philippinesphil.blogspot.com/2010/07/angeles-city-killer-his-photos-are.html

    http://www.harrythehorse.asia/?p=6030

    http://globalnation.inquirer.net/43494/dutch-aid-worker-buried-family-colleagues-cry-out-for-justice

    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?158186-Pictures-before-and-after-an-ambush-Philippine-Army

  16. hi, well im going to move to live in bohol and like to know in general if its safe there? and what area maybe less safe in Bohoh? and olso thinking to get a stun gun in the house just in case and maybe carry a little one with me too. can i do that in philippines?
    thank you

    • Bohol is a beautiful island, increasingly popular with expats. As with all places in the Philippines, you are responsible for your own security both in terms of physical measures such as bars on windows (see http://myphilippinelife.com/our-philippine-house-project-security/) and in your own behavior. Here are a few suggestions:

      Treat Filipinos with respect and fairness. Never humiliate them. Try to never raise your voice. Pay them what they deserve. Don’t try to cheat them. Avoid business and financial entanglements. Stay out of local politics. Don’t feud with your neighbors. In short, don’t make enemies, try not to make people angry with you.

      Generally be cautious. Lock your car doors. Lock your house. Don’t display wealth.

      There are many opportunities to drink, gamble, party and chase girls (or boys). Hanging out at bars increases your risk of trouble. If you want to be safe, be in your house with the doors locked at a decent hour.

      If you live on Bohol and live prudently, you should not need a stun gun. Not sure if they are legal. Pepper spay is widely available. Be very cautious about using any such device. Shocking or spraying a Filipino should be a very last resort.

      Bob

      • “In short, don’t make enemies, try not to make people angry with you.”

        Not that I disagree. Its sound advice. However, there is something not right about having to suck it up when you are right, just out of fear.

        One needs to consider if one wants to live like that. I have no clue why some people without family live here i.e. without a strong connection to the country. There are far safer places if the world is your oyster.

    • I love Bohol more than the other Visayan Islands like Cebu or Negros Occidental – Cebu is industrializing and so is Panay. Negros is dull because of the hacienda mentality where there’s a stagnant and lack of movement in the commerce. Bohol is just right – not too crowded. The public market is clean. There’s enough commerce, and tourism is growing to accommodate local and foreign tourists. I live in the US for the last 40 years of my life. As a Filipina, I would love to live in the Philippines when I retire. There is so much to be done there, and on how to help the people. Majority of the people are good people. Just don’t walk around with fancy stuff like computers, ipad, iphones… I really don’t think they are appropriate. If you have them, keep them contained in the hotel. A few criminals will be watching you if you have them. My husband, being American born Filipino, has been robbed every time, and it’s because he is too exposed with his gadgets. He sticks out too much. As for myself, street smart, and thus far, it was my cell phone that disappeared when I fell asleep on the bus. Things like that. People are just desperate for money. Karma as a belief, do unto others as you do to yourself, is very strong in the Filipino psyche. Most don’t like to do bad things to others… The core value of kapwa, self less and always thinking of others, is also a good value and practiced by common people.

      • Magdalena,

        Thanks so much for your wonderful post. I too really like Bohol. We have friends who retired there. We visited and just did the standard tour, Loboc River, Chocolate Hills etc. and then a little more exploring on our own. I am also interested in heritage buildings. Bohol has some of the prettiest, unspoiled historic small towns. Bohol is beautiful, green and hilly, unspoiled and unpolluted. It seems to have a strong environmental ethic. However, I have to be a bit patriotic towards Panay. Iloilo City is growing, no doubt about that with Megaworld, Gaisano and Ayala having big plans underway. There are actually construction cranes on the Iloilo skyline. However, Iloilo, unlike Cebu City, has practically no industry aside from its innumerable colleges. Healthcare options are a plus. But, much of Panay is very rural, although a lot of it is flat agricultural land, not so pretty as hilly Bohol. On the other hand, Antique Province has many of the attributes of Bohol; long stretches of unspoiled ocean front adjoining green rice fields backed by high mountains. Actually Bohol seems to be getting popular with foreigners, whereas Panay (with the big exception of Boracay) sees few tourists. Part of that must be that, for the most part, Panay does not have beautiful white sand beaches. Also, Ilonggos are notably more reserved, conservative perhaps even stodgy. With the exception of Boracay, Panay in not a place to come for a “good time”, Ilonggos are really decent, honest, quite religious people who make for good neighbors. So, that is my leap to the defense of Panay! Thanks again for your post.

        Bob

  17. one more thing. My friend was always bragging about Americans living in a place called Ormoc near Cebu. He told me it was cheap place and laid back no crime. But to find out they have very high murder rate and the police dont do much to stop them. Most crime there is daytime. Also a few weeks back I read here an articel where an aussie had been in there a long time with his wife and kids , some filipinos came into his house day time , shots were fired, blood was found but they took him, no one helped him at all. Another white man was in taxi in cebu the driver took him to a deserted back alley and some men with guns took him to the jungles for ransom. Recently rich China men near the mines in mindanao lived in a house. Some men took them both day time. No one helped. they were rich. Come to know now that u are a target if u have any money or if u are foreign.

  18. I hope this isnt too long. Sorry in advance. I was in Manila, Bacolod and then Dagupan in 2009 june. I felt very safe except a few times. I was there a month and met my wife there. I was treated so well that I thought I was a rock star, only saw a few white people my whole time and only one black at the big airport, he was very unhappy about something. So not many foreigners that I saw.I was at that large flea market named Baclaran near Manila and every boy was staring at me, spooked me a little. A small girl wanted to rub my arm for luck or something. She was so sweet. I saw many beautiful women. I was with my gfs family so I felt ok. In bacolod all were friendly but I felt uneasy. I stayed in the hotel and it was a good time, only went out once. back to Manila with my gf and her family after a week in dagupan area. Never was treated nice at dagupan not any. Dont know why. Manila was the nicest for me, all were quite nice. So i was telling everyone how safe the PI are. It aint true. So many news articles I have read on the contrary . As the USA goes, we are a great place but dangerous here also especially for women. I jjust am scared to move to the PH , I love it but my Medicare isnt good there anyway so I guess my questions are moot. I wanted to live there so much. But I know it is not safe for white people, regardless what ppl say.

    • Hi Jay,

      Thanks for your comments. You are certainly right about not being eligible for Medicare overseas. That’s a big issue. Even if you’re healthy now, you might not be after you’ve lived abroad for five or ten years.

      I think you have to be careful rather than afraid of living in the Philippines. Choose the region where you live carefully. Some areas see kidnapping of foreigners, others rarely do. I prefer the Visayas. I would avoid some of Mindanao and Manila.

      If you have money, keep that information to yourself. Live modestly. You are right to not expect help from the police or from neighbors. After dark, you are more or less on your own. Make sure your residence is as secure as it can be. Have bars on your windows, security lights and alarms. Minimize business dealing which can go bad and be careful in chasing the ladies. Do not make enemies. The earlier you are at home the better. Hanging out where there is a lot of drinking can be unsafe.

      All that said, in my almost six years in the Philippines, I feel quite safe. We live in a pretty isolated rural place. Our neighbors are exceptionally honest. I feel that many would starve rather than steal.

      Bob

  19. Hi Everyone,

    I really find this website fascinating and very informative to see how other people feel about living in the Philippines. I was born and raised their till I was 13 and moved in the U.S. All I can say is that it is actually best to understand the country first.

    -The country is still considered a 3rd world country, even though some might considered it developing.

    -The Philippines has no middle class, its pretty much rich and poor. The poor citizens has the higher ratio than the rich. Some people do consider themselves ‘working class’ which is growing in much greater rate in the country. I would estimate that 40-50 percent would consider themselves poor while 10-20 percent would consider themselves working class and the remainder would consider themselves rich.

    BTW ‘rich’ in the Philippines will probably be ‘lower-upper middle class and beyond’ here in the States.

    -With that in mind anything that is considered common in any developed or 1st world countries are considered LUXURY in the Philippines. You name it: fast food, air conditioning, a car, a nice house, malls and even Starbucks is considered a “rich thing”.

    -Most of the rich people will live with other rich people in a gated community with some exceptions of course. And if they do live in a ‘barrio’ they usually have privacy walls( which is called Bakod in Tagalog and they usually make it pretty high to keep off burglars.)

    I was lucky enough to be born with hard working parents, and my grandparents had owned a massive land that took care of us when we were growing up. Even though we were considered ‘working class,’ some people considered us rich and we still got broken in.

    For Western Foreigners, Keep in mind that most Filipinos will consider you rich. And they would try to take advantage of that especially if you don’t know the language. NEVER travel in the Ghettos by yourself, or without even knowing the language. Travel with a trusted friend.

    THERE ARE MANY DIFFERENT LANGUAGES IN THE PHILIPPINES. The official language is Tagalog which is commonly spoke by many in the Luzon Island. But if you go to different provinces such as Pampanga, Ilocos, Batangas or in pretty much in the other undeveloped Islands: Visayas and the Mindanaos. They speak another language. ENGLISH is still widely spoken, in fact it is taught in schools, but since most filipinos don’t speak it, there still might be a language barrier.

    My Dad was from Pampanga and he spoke Kampangan and my Mom was from Marripipi which is on another island and she spoke another language. SO BE CAREFUL! I remember when I was kid and moving to Pampanga and I felt so helpless since everyone spoke a language that I don’t understand.

    -Adopt a lot of dogs for security. Dogs are treated as cattle, and there’s no PETA in the Philippines which is pretty sad.

    -Try not to move in a Bad part of the city and in any province(near the ghettos). You’re just asking for trouble. Drive around and see if there’s nice houses around the community first and talk to a official.

    -Befriend people in higher places, such as the Barangay Captains or any other prominent people in your area. DON’T BE A LONER! Believe it or not people like to talk in every community, Trust me. Most people know who lives where in most towns.

    -There’s a reason why all of the cars in the Philippines are tinted black and that every house has security bars. Don’t brushed this off, crime rate is particularly higher in 3rd world countries. I was reading on another comment that the crime rate is pretty much like in other western countries. NO IT’S NOT! Don’t be blinded and don’t ignore the facts. It’s definitely a lot higher especially if you’re from the West, Chinese or Korean.

    MAKE FRIENDS- Make friends that have travelled or have live in other western countries. Visit a resort, a country club or any social events. There’s a lot of them and they’re not hard to find.

    Hopefully, I didn’t scare anyone off. The country is still very raw and it is definitely a different culture. The majority of people are Roman Catholics and keep their religion very dear to themselves. The government isn’t really that old. I believed the government is only 70sh years old, so there’s still a lot of immaturity and corruption.

    One thing that I can tell you about the people is that most people are very friendly and very respectful of each other. I admire the respect that they have in their elders.

    Just be smart and don’t let the idea of living in an exotic country blind you on what you’ve learned in life.

    If you have questions for me feel free to reply or Email me.

    Best,
    Jerry.

    • I quite disagree with you about the “rich and poor” part. Most Filipinos consider themselves “middle class”. I was in a place, not very pretty, but people there have cars! As in any country, I can say that the Philippines is a developing country just like the rest of Asia and southern Europe. There are cities, especially in Makati and a new city called Fort Bonifacio, that look like you’re transported to LA! haha. But, yeah, it is wiser to live ina gated community… well, most subdivisions are gated – ehem, just like any city in California. I read in a history book that old Manila was designed like a walled city in Spain… then the rest – downtown surrounded by gated subdivisions – are patterned after Los Angeles… If cost is your concern, the cost of living in the Phil. is just 1/10 as in the US. Even with 2,500 dollars on Social Security benefits, you can live in luxury in the Philippines.
      I think the political situation is better and more stable compared to two years ago, attributed to their new reformist president. but I would rank the Philippines in the same level as Thailand or Malaysia when it comes to living standards and security condition. Singapore is on a higher level, but it is small and it gets redundant after a while. I would definitely avoid living in countries like Indonesia, Vietnam or Laos.

    • My son was murdered in PI. He was x contractor for air force. Story goes he met young girl at a mall. Fell in love…moved there. Temp. visa. Brought a expensive house, put in gf name. After about a month, he got put out house. Gf fam moved in house. He was allowed to visit house. Gf pleads with us on fb for him to go back to usa. He says no, not until he sells house! Crazy I know, but my son had not firgured out he had been had. He was killed by motorcyle acct at 4am. Brain injury. Gf lies…while my son is dead, she says he in coma, need money fast. Hospital says he was dead on arrival. She arranges expensive funeral, tries to bill me!!! How can they kill then do funeral…cold hearted.

      • So sorry to hear this terrible story! These things do happen here. The book, “For the Love of My Son” by Margaret Davis tells a very similar story. Her son is killed by his wife’s boyfriend. The mother goes to the Philippines, hires attorneys and detectives, is determined to seek justice even though the police were not interested. She was successful. The wife and the boyfriend were both convicted and are serving long jail sentences. But, without the persistence of the mother, they would still be free. It’s quite a story.

  20. Hi Hosea and all expats.

    The post of Hosea is very familiar to my experience as an American person with dark skin staying here in the Philippines. There are other issues at hand as well with people here in general. I find most people anywhere in the world to be insincere in their interactions with others they just meet. This is also true with Filipinos.
    Having said that, i think that a person having dark skin makes the problem much worse and keeps filipinos being plastic ( insincere ) due to what they’ve been programmed or taught to believe about so called Blacks or people referred to here as so called ” Negro “. I am married to a filipina and we have a child. That may be the best thing in the world to a person who is so called white. But i think that for most people with dark skin married to a filipino, this causes alot of problems for that person and their family. Even my wife is treated differently. Her brothers work abroad but upon return each year, they have no pasalubong for her or less in some cases compared to what the other siblings get. This wouldn’t be a problem if she wasn’t getting it before i came into the picture or that wasn’t a part of filipino culture. But i know that its due to me. Most of the family doesn’t acknowledge me. when i’m in a room with them, i could easily be mistaken to be a statue, most are black right? i’m generally ignored, espesially by the brothers ( that’s her brothers, not blacks for those who may misunderstand that ). I think there are many issues at work here. One of the issues was mentioned in another post. That issue being the thought of a person with dark skin having more than a filipino. Especially if the filipino is working abroad and has the ego to match. If i were white or of a much lighter complexion, maybe that would be no issue, would it? now mind you, this is only a thought. They like other people in this world should realize that ” we are all products of our experiences ” ( whether American or Filipino ), those experiences could easily be positively affected by how we all treat each other or look at each other, we shouldn’t be simply looked at as a color. those who attend church and have religious beliefs should live by those beliefs. are we not all created by the same GOD, one GOD. Thus follows the popular statement that “we are all, regardless of race, genetically 99.9% the same”,[36] although this would be somewhat qualified by most geneticists. Or are some of us to be treated unfairly, i guess the politics of human beings will always want it that way. I can only hope that through message boards like this that those with some sort of power, generally white skinned, will use that power, not be indifferent, to speak against the things that are wrong, even those things that don’t personally affect them in a negative way, or do they? or will speaking up affect that living in more of a fantasy land? Honesty, Sincerity, Kindness should always be far above charm and wealth and even status, but this is what we’re dealing with. I hope that i have brought some understanding for my personal experience and what may be similar experiences to other persons of darker skin. I also hope that their will be some positive responses to my comments. To Hosea, How is Mindanao these days? Hope you’re doing well and keeping your head up moving forward.

    • Hi Charles,

      I am so sorry that you’re being treated like this. Keep in mind that there’s no diversity in the Philippines and there’s a lot of uneducated people. Most filipinos don’t really get a chance to interact with other races. The only ethnicities or nationalities that filipinos get to interact’s are Chinese, Koreans and white westerners. Even the Chinese are also being ridiculed by filipinos and the sad part is that most filipinos have Chinese ancestry in them and they don’t even know it. There’s a lot of ignorance in the country which is mostly due to it’s lack of education of the subject. So don’t let their ignorance keep you down.

      Cheers,
      Jerry

  21. Hi Hosea and others,

    I’ve been married to a filipina for more than 10yrs. Visited my in-laws like ten times. I’m Indian by ethnicity. I can relate with Hosea with regards to skin color and filipino perception. Even for white skin, anything less than USA white skin is less appealing. Nothing need to be said about darker skin.

    When my girlfriend (wife now) introduced me to her mother, the first thing out of her mouth was, I thought you were American. I could tell see was a little disappointed when I told her I was not. Even when she was sickly and on a wheelchair, she has since passed away.

    On many occasions I had thought of retiring in Phils for good, but my experiences told me otherwise. I have always left to feel like an outsider within the family. I had lost my family while young and had looked forward to my future in-laws as family. But I was terribly disappointed over and over again. But I still accompany my wife back to visit them.

    Each time we go, we would plan to bring the family for vacation within Phils. But even during this trips, all paid by me, they will still give me the impression that its not good enough. I’m not rich in my home country and have to work for my living.

    A caveat, the following statement applies to most not ALL.
    In all, my observation of Phils is, its a friendly country towards white skinned people, due to colonial baggage. Generally, they assume all western people are rich and they envy them. But towards colored people, their true color is revealed. The other reason is due to their religion. They think a “white man” is their god not knowing Jesus in all probability was a black man. (bbc news)

    • its not the color my friend.i am married also with philwoman i am very white but still same problem like you.and from what i read in books about phil mentality a foreign husband will always be a stranger for the family.

  22. I’m about to go back to the Philippines for the 2nd time in 2 years. I’ve been invited for drinks by a group of locals in Quezon City. From what I know they do not live in an affluent neighbourhood. They suggested that we drink outside their house one night and that actually kind of worries me. Is it wise as a white foreigner to stay stationary in a place like that? I don’t want to refuse on the basis that the people there are poor. Would it be wise to hire a plain clothes bodyguard?

    Am I just being massively paranoid?

    The first time I went to the Philippines I saw the hostage bus with the Hong Kong tourists. About a week later I saw a dead body lying in a road and a few buses with bullet holes in them. Probably not the best impression in terms of crime rates.

    Thanks.

    • Unless you know the people that are inviting you VERY well or are family it would be extremely unwise to join those that are drinking. Filipinos, like American indians do no mix well with alcohol in any form. Best friends and even brothers will fight and kill each other when drunk. What appears to be a quiet party or get together can turn violent and deadly within seconds. It is not the place to be. Find a nice way to decline the offer. Nine years of living in the Philippines and that is the best advise I can give…

    • It is definitely unwise to join a ‘inuman’ or ‘drinking’ party by yourself. Especially if you don’t know the people really well. Believe it or not, drinking parties are pretty common in the Philippines, and you won’t really miss anything if you don’t go to one. Always bring a friend with you and don’t drink anything that is suspicious. If I were you, I would try to avoid this social event if you don’t trust anyone that is going to be there.

  23. Hi Bob,

    I just wanted to ask you about your experience with the electric fence. You noted in one of your comments against that 100%.. I live in a subdivision up in a community it is not gated or fenced. But the home i live in is fenced and gated. The previous owner moved out because he was robbed soo many times. Too top it off last time was at gun point. In saying that, there are 7 other homes and all have experienced robberies and breaking in the last few years. Just past New years ever an elderly Brit couple were robbed at gun point the man was shot in the leg and the woman was thrown on the ground kicked a few times and pretty bruised up. Now i am considering installing an electric fence on our perimeter wall to eliminate the culprits from even getting the chance at coming inside the compound. These electric fences are not lethal but will give one heck of a shock and will deter any petty criminal from attempting to breach the wall. If the wires are cut an alarm will sound to alarm us or fend off the would be robber. We don’t have any dogs and the reason is, if we are not home for some time out of country or what have you then you have to have someone looking after the dog. Also cleaning up its daily mess is not one of my favorite things to do. If you have some experiences with electric fences could you give me some more insight into that. I am thinking this is a great line of defense, contrary to your beliefs.

    I also have stories of being robbed etc, but i will post that in another post. thanks

    Regards,

    Duane

    • Duane,

      We’re so sorry to hear of your situation. It sounds terrible! Where are you located? We have been lucky so far, but we realize that it’s luck which could change anytime. I feel that most of the rural people living around us would starve before they would steal but it only takes one or two exceptions to do the damage.

      If we were in your situation, we’d relocate somewhere else, but we understand that circumstances may make that impossible.

      We do have some experience with the type of electric fencing you suggest as we had livestock on our farm in New York. Also one our far Filipino neighbors has that type of electric fencing on top of his high wall. I guess it’s worth a try. Put up lots of scary signs and rely on the psychological impact of the nasty sparks. Don’t economize on the charger. Get a powerful one.

      Are you saying you go away and leave your house unoccupied part of the year? We’d never do that in the Philippines or in many places in the US. We’re not big dog lovers but dogs are an essential part of security here. Most Filipinos are afraid of dogs. Our mutts work full time at protecting their turf — and ours.

      Anyway, good luck!

      Bob and Carol

  24. Thanks for creating this blog. It’s very informative! My husband and I are considering relocating to the Phils. in about a year or two but we’re reconsidering because of the restrictive gun laws in the Phils. for foreigners to own guns. We strongly believe in the Second Amendment. To find out that my husband will be defenseless against thugs is not acceptable. I was wondering though, can you put barb wires and electrical fence to fend against bad guys? What are the laws on owning samurai swords. I guess if you can’t have guns, they must allow something to defend yourself. This may sound ludicrous but we just want to cover our defense strategies before giving up our US constitutional right. Thanks for your opinion.

  25. I have lived in the Philippines for 11 years, This has been a very interesting read, as I have lived in rented property, with and without security. I am a Britino even love the food and speak and understand enough Tagalog and Cebano to get on.

    I do have a tendency to shout some times its getting rarer and I have learned to smile and joke just after the stupid outburst. This has actual made me friends and often gets a laugh but always a smile from those I shout at. It is easy to say don’t shout, however our culture sometimes lets us down.

    I now live in a semi secure property in a compound that is mostly populated with ex police and military of whom I get on famously with. Bars on all my windows and a secondary defense two dogs one a Rottweiler and the other a very clever small Filipino mongrel both take residence in my house at night. My Rottweiler has already chased off two burglars, when I see then trying to break in my nearest neighbors house I let him loose. It was a comedy watching one of the burglars just escape through a side gate, that’s locked permanently now.

    Having a big dog and a small dog in the house is a great deterrent my small dog wakes on a pin drop. My big dog accesses the need to be alarmed. A very good team of guard dogs.

    I never have a problem of going out in the day time or night time, I seldom go out after midnight and normal at home in the evenings any way. Dumaguete City Negros does have a crime rate, its pretty low considering and there is defiantly more crime in my home town London UK. We also have the gangs that sometimes come here from Cebu. Foreigners have been mugged and killed mostly because they have been lending money. Got in an argument with the wrong people and showed arrogance. Then that dreaded boy friend of the maid and partners unknown boy friend etc. Not dressing down and displaying a wad of notes.

    I really think a fire proof safe is necessary that is well hidden I actually have two. As there are times one has to place cash in a safe place, so one is not carrying too much around. I do not have a maid at present but sometimes I employ a trusted old maid from my partners family. I employ my partners brother as my gardener and dog handler, very good guy and totally trust worthy, normal does farm work and comes from my partners parents farm up in the mountain provinces.

    Dressing down is a very good idea, been doing that since I got here. I also have a chain on my wallet and inside pockets in my some of my trousers. I check my mirrors carefully after I have visited a ATM. Never stopping between A to B. I do not own a car just two cheap motorbikes one very old. If I buy four wheel transport it will be a second hand looking worn job but kept well maintained.

    My partner also dresses down never wears gold or expensive jewelry and never looks like she has a rich foreigner husband. Still looks total beautiful.

    I must admit I used to play around something I don’t do now day’s no need I a very happy, I limit my foreign friends to only two that I can respect, most of my friends are Filipino’s even there I chose carefully who can enter my house. One can get worried over your security, mostly others have used me as their body guard, it was actually one of the reasons I came to the Philippines. I tend to not get people staring at me talking the language helps as they are used to the Mormons missionaries and sense you been here a very long time. I never attract a crowd where ever I go, but when I first came here that was so.

    Funny enough its my partner that gets up tight about people staring at her, when she is with me, lol. The trick is to learn how to fit in, learn the culture and try to love the food. I really do when its cooked by a good cook. Then never look down your nose, also realize if you find a partner she/he maybe more educated than you. However they may think London and Paris is in America. lol. My partner is smarter than a fifth grader and is interested in world politics and science. I have helped kids here with their home work and was very surprised how smart they where. I often see mostly Americans that are high school drop outs with partners that had graduated from Universities, looking down their nose at the partners educational skills.

    Don’t let the security thing over scare you. Manila or any of the big cities are more of a risk than the smaller cities. Central Philippines such as Cebu tend to be safer from terrorist attacks etc. Try to pick a good area to live. A compound with middle class Filipino’s is a good idea. Then there are places like where I live that neighbors do help each other when a crime happens.

    • Bob,

      Many thanks for your comments and sharing your experiences. I know they’ll be helpful to those considering life in the Philippines. Regarding crime, safety and security, our experiences have been extremely good. We’ve never had anything stolen, never pick-pocketed. On the contrary. When I absentmindedly leave something behind people will stop me to make sure I get it before leaving the jeepney etc.

      Our house is in a pretty isolated rural location on a dead-end road with no close neighbors, but in just over a year we have not had the slightest problem — no one coming over our wall — nothing. Of course that could change in an instant. There have been multiple foreigner murders on our island in the last few years.

      We just try to be realistic in our posts, not to portray the Philippines as an bargain-price Hawaii. We have had people come to the Philippines, based in part on our comments, and then complain that, to them, it’s far from being a tropical paradise we said it was.

      Bob and Carol

      • Your very welcome.

        I also find honesty outside of the larger cities is very good, however never expect honesty in large cities such as Cebu City. However Cities such as Dumaguete City honesty rules. There are of course less crooks as with everywhere crooks ply where the pickings are good.

        The big problem of being a different color and a long nose makes the foreigner stand out, they the crooks and con artist see a big dollar sign so to speak on the forehead. However I felt less unsafe in Florida USA than I have ever felt here. Murders do happen but normally when armed crooks see absolute wealth, large car, big house purchased of built with the money of the foreigner etc. Local talk about what the foreigner has said about money matters etc. Loads of land purchased at a known price as the old land owner will talk about the great deal made. Filipino’s are great at rumors, they love rumors especial many of the women, so one has to take care what is said by anyone in your house hold.

        Those who have been here a long time will have differing views some can be over careful concerning security issues, one thing one must never do is have an electric fence. This causes problems with the neighbors of whom consider electric to be 220 volts. They can go berserk over this security issue.

        My advice to newbies is to make up their own minds concerning the security they implement, but suggest security is a must, those that read these threads will see the main sensible needs. Glad to see this topic here and the experienced EXPAT have took time to share.

    • Hi Bob,

      I have to agree. I’ve been married and have lived here in the islands for nine years. I’ve never felt really threatened or in danger. Gated subdivisions are not for me. I came here to enjoy life and the local people and that’s hardly possible behind walls where only us foreigners live.
      We chose a Mt. Pinatubo resettlement and living with the poorest of the poor. Frustrating at times but over all the best thing we could have done. Day or night we feel safe and accepted by all here. Also the over all cost of living is much lower than in “normal” expat areas…

  26. Hi everyone!
    I read your article and comments. Thanks for information.
    I am a sales manager at company that sells used heavy equipments.
    My boss told me that he wants me to go to Philippines to manage
    our branch. Since then I started to research on Philippines.
    I am not pleased of what I have been reading so far.
    I am concerned for my safety, because I will be managing big money
    and have to manage our employees. Besides that my boss told me
    that I have to rent rooms to other people. (the house is big he says).
    The house is in Makati city and office is in Pasig city.
    After all I have read, I dont trust Philippine people and have an impression
    that they would kill for a penny.
    Is it that horrible in Philippines? What can I do to protect myself in terms
    of how should I treat people? (I dont believe in guard stuff cause if someone
    wants to kill then there is plenty ways to do that).
    Thanks!

    • I think not trusting Philippine people and thinking they would “kill for a penny” is going too far. I’ve lived in the Philippines for five years and managed the crew that built our house. I have had no problems. I have not been robbed or pick-pocketed. I have mostly received respect and kindness. Here’s what I suggest.

      Treat Filipinos with respect and fairness. Never humiliate them. Try to never raise your voice. Pay them what they deserve. Don’t try to cheat them. In short, don’t make enemies, try not to make people angry with you. If you have to hire, fire and manage staff and manage rental properties, you really have to be able to do so with diplomacy, firmness and finesse. Probably you will have security guards to assist you. You have to decide if you have the temperament for this.

      Do not carry any big amount of money or valuables on your person. If you have to, keep it a secret.

      Generally be cautious. Lock your car doors. Lock your house. Don’t display wealth

      There are many opportunities to drink, gamble, party and chase girls (or boys). Hanging out at bars increases your risk of trouble. If you want to be safe, be in your house with the doors locked at a decent hour.

      You don’t mention your sex or nationality. Filipino businessmen have decades of experience in the culture and know where the boundaries, pitfalls and opportunities are. Your boss must think you are up to the challenge. Be fair and respectful. A smile on your face will do wonders. Good luck.

    • Hi Isot,

      Honestly, the Philippines is fine, im 27, been here since i was 20, im from the UK. Never had any real issues, i would have had alot more issues in LONDON than here in manila.

      Common sense is needed, dont be trustworthy of anyone, i mean anyone, for the first few months, while you are learning how things work, this is crucial, because if you go to the Philippines accepting offers and invites from ”friends” trust me you are asking for trouble. If you want to go out clubbing, bars, restuarants, invite your work friends etc to glorieeta malls, or fort bonifacio, rockwell, mall of asia, these type of places are VERY SAFE and very nice.

      For the first few months, stay aways from the raw parts of manila, in the first month i was in manila there were TWO ARMED hold ups at the hotel, captured on CCTV too, thankfully i was unharmed, 4 guys came into the hotel (by the way its a backpackers hotel) and tied up the receptionist and other staff while they emptied the cashier. The hotel owner who im friends with thought it might be an inside job, because watching the CCTV they were very gentle with one of the staff and the rope used to tie her up you could see it wasnt actually tied up at all.

      A few weeks later, i was outside the front of the hotel chatting with guests and staff, i went inside to get some food, we heard a scream and a staff member come in crying, a motorbike had stopped outside of the hotel, a girl (yes girl) got off the bike, pulled a knife out on the staff and pressed it to her stomache, then told her to give her the cellphone and money, which she did, Again, nobody was harmed but both incidents could have been very bad.

      In the past month, i witnessed a mugging right infront of me, shook me up alot tbh. a few weeks later i was driving down EDSA, the main highway/artery for the city, at about lunchtime, so its daytime, loads and loads of people standing around, buses, heavy traffic, and still even at this time i witnessed a guy grab an old lady and pull her purse, amazingly the old lady held onto it, and he cudnt get it, he tried for about 10 seconds and all the 20 or so people around her at the bus stop just watched (nobody will help you), the mugger, who was fat, then just gave up and ran right across the 5-6 lane busy highway right infront of my car, he actually touched my bonnet cus i had to stop, the whole time he was runing he a had huge smile on his face, thats the scary part about it!!! for him it was just fun, also funny that he cudnt take it from an old lady. I was sickended when i saw him smiling and i was so tempted NOT to put the breaks on, i wud have hit hard enough to break alot of bones. Thankfully for him, its not in my instincts to hurt some one.

      • Kris,

        These are really great suggestions, especially about being cautious early on. Thanks for taking the time to share them.

        Bob and Carol

  27. Hello my fellow expats,

    It’s been just over two years since my wife and I have retired here in the Philippines and just over a year since I last posted on this thread. After reading my last comments a year later I feel no need to add much to my previous comments. Although I am that guy that is always studying his surroundings. Always analyzing whats what. I have noticed some things about myself and how it fits into where I live now.

    In trying to look at my situation from eyes looking in from the outside, (not easy to do). I noticed something about myself that I kind of already knew but wasn’t aware how it would effect me in a different culture. What I noticed is how my race and who I am seems to be a big factor in my interactions with those around me.

    It would take some time to explain to most people but even those that are not of my ethnic background may understand somewhat from just the American aspect of it. I’m not sure how westerners are from other countries but we Americans are taught for good reasons that we are the masters of our own space. You will have a hard time surviving in America if you see life any other way.

    What I have noticed is that bringing that understanding and way of life (culture) here to the Philippines can get in the way of assimilating into Philippine life. For one thing and I don’t think or feel it is a small thing. I hate Filipino food. I am kind of lazy now and don’t want to cook so I find myself paying a lot of attention to eating and what I can eat.

    One very peculiar thing is trying to look outside of who I am and what color skin I have in how Filipinos react, respond and treat dark skinned and people of African decent or even dark skinned Filipinos. From my very first visit I noticed something was wrong when my wife insisted I get some lotion for my dry skin. I went to pick up any old lotion until my wife said “you don’t want that”! Shocked, I asked why and she said, “read that”! About six shelves of skin whitening lotion!?

    Why am I mentioning things like this on a subject of living safely here in the Philippines? Well, those of you that look like me may already know. We are viewed differently even here where so many have a similar history. In many places I am treated as I am in the US from time to time. Less than American. Many of my wife’s friends and family make comments like he is “black American” in a condescending way. Many times they are darker skinned than I am. I see myself as American first, by the way.

    Even when it comes to “the rich American” problem. I have noticed in the markets, malls and just around town more attention is given to Black foreigners. It seems to me what ever that means, it equals the same problem. We attract more attention just being here low key or not.

    I have found that my male in-laws seem a little insulted that this black American has more then they do. Not to my face but to my wife there has even been threats and insults thrown my way for no reason other than “he doesn’t understand my English”. Now I understand why Mexicans and Asians seem to us to always say yes to everything we say. Sometimes it seems best to just agree or seem to agree.

    Being a strong willed person (husband and father). I have had to learn to be even more humble than I already was just to stay out of the way. I once told a family member here that has worked abroad and somewhat understands the American’s way (in frustration) of how I felt unwarranted negatively treated, that I am an American and I can’t change that. His response was that my problems are my fault. That other family members are upset with me because I am rich and every time they see me with anything they are resentful.

    I hear stories that I have 42 million pesos. Which concerns me some. I ask how can anyone think I have money like that when my car is always broke down, I’m wearing the same clothes I had on two years ago, still building (very slowly) our house for lack of money and on and on…. My wife even borrows from family and the maid now and then because our money runs out by the end of the month. I don’t like that she does that by the way.

    What have I learned from this experience? I am wondering how other people of African decent experiences have been in this regard. And I wish I had bought far from family and moved into a gated community with really good security. Maybe I should have moved to somewhere other than Mindanao.

    • Hosea,

      I’m so sorry to be so late in responding to your post. I really wanted to think it over. I’m a more or less white guy, so I hear things that might not be said in the presence of a person of color. I do feel that many Filipinos do look down of people of color; dark complected Filipinos, Aetas and other mountain tribes and people of African descent. — sometimes to a shocking degree. If you are a well-to-do, well-spoken African American, then these Filipinos will get over their innate prejudices. There was a former U.S. Ambassador to Niger who retired to Iloilo. I never heard a single negative word about him. He was charming, well fixed and well liked but we cannot all be so blessed. It’s more or less the same as in the U.S. Charm and wealth overcome prejudice — if you have charm and wealth!

      Probably living in an upscale, gated subdivision would help, just as staying out of redneck country might be a good idea in the U.S. Upscale, educated Filipinos will realize that such prejudice is improper.

      That’s about all I can contribute. Hopefully readers of color can give their own thoughts.

      Bob

    • Awww the last word you said, MINDANAO, that might be the problem, did you experience the same type of stuff in manila?

      Im a white guy from the uk, in my twenties and i used to get treated differently alot too, i always told people back home, if your a bit of an attention seeker you will love the Philippines, but for me ,i dont like attention or being treated good or bad based on my skin colour.

      But ive been here along time now and i dont even think about it anymore. You said you have been here two years, i think after a few more years your problems will go away, have you noticed you also act differently since you have been here? Personally i did for several years, after a while i got comfortable and i noticed ppl stopped treating me differently. which i like.

    • Hi Hosea,

      Very good reading your post. I can readily identify with what you say. I too am a Black American, originally from L.A. The area I lived in was nice, once upon a time, but has now been re-designated as “South Central” like everything south of Hollywood seems to be nowadays. I ran with the street guys when I was young, survived that, did my military thing and, believe or not, eventually became a cop. ( I hope you are still reading. ) The challenges we faced back home prepared us for most situations and armed us with knowledge and experience not always shared by others. My Filipina wife of 18 years is now learning that, since we came here to live 5 months ago, she is not actually considered a native any longer. I have felt just like you how her family somehow seems disappointed in her for marrying a black man. Although I am of a lighter complexion I don’t think I can be mistaken for anything other that what I am. I constantly feel like an outsider where ever we go. My color probably does make me even more visible, just as you said. We have chosen to live in Tagaytay City because it is so much cooler here. I have read all of the warnings about traveling in Mindinao and wouldn’t even consider going there. The crime rate here is supposed to be lower than other areas but I am not deluded at all. I know from first hand experience that it is much better to prepare for the worst case and hope for the best. I don’t trust anyone. Never have, for that matter. We take all the steps we can to secure our home and persons. My wife is a dual citizen so she can own a firearm. I hope that I never have to experience any of the things that I read about but I try to prepare, just in case. When out, my radar is in high gear. I sometimes carry a walking stick which might help. Better than nothing. I have felt and seen guys trying to position themselves around me at ATMs or just on the street. They quickly see that I am aware of them. Girls too. Don’t turn your back if you can help it. I once went to see about buying a used car in Manila and the dealer wouldn’t allow us to test drive the car saying that they were afraid of being kidnapped. I told them that it is usually us foreigners that get kidnapped not the other way around. Funny, huh? Let me tell you what happened to my sister-in-law. She and her husband owned a nice business and usually paid their staff with cash. One day she was sent to the bank to pick up the payroll in stead of the usual person that did this. She exited the bank, got into her car and 2 guys on motor bikes rode up, shot her in the backside and grabbed the black bag visible on the seat beside her, as though they knew what to look for. Fortunately, they got the wrong bag. But the robbers both had Ar-15 assault rifles. I don’t believe the average crook here has these but I know that the police do. Inside job? Probably.
      If you ever get to Tagaytay you should look me up. I have always wanted to meet other Afo- Americans living here. It’s good to talk with someone with a similar background. This is my first visit to this site so I don’t know if we can share contact information like on expatforum. Take care, brother and keep on keeping on.

      Mike

    • I am a American of mixed heritage living in Mindanao. My skin color more or less matches that of most Filipinos exposed to moderate sun. I am almost shocked at the experiences report by some of the expats here. I personally have not experienced the negativity from Filipinos as reported by some here. Yes, I sometimes feel like a statue in a room full of Filipinos chatting away in a language I don’t understand — but that is the norm regardless of skin color. There are jerks everywhere of course, but for me, aside from drivers and loud noise makers, there just might be fewer jerks here in Mindanao.

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  29. this was interesting reading kinda got me thinking a little more now.

    i wanted to share a little of my time here as for me i really not had that much problems with the people i had a couple of small problems one of them being a guy trying to screw me out of money but that matter was soon cleared up and the other matter was a couple of young lads throwing quite big stones at me as i ride past and as many would think is giving them a good slap but not a good idea.

    a couple of other things that has happened around the area i live in some time last week a indian guy was a target to be robbed it turned out he was running a lending business he was pulled over by 2 guys on a motorbike one of them pulled out a gun the indian guy refused to hand over any money and ended up getting shot.

    my advise and i believe many would agree if this kind of thing happens is just hand it over loosing a few thousand is better than loosing your life and i also agree its not a good idea to be in the lending business.

    the second thing and it relates to guns one never know who has a gun hidden for example sunday 13th aug 3 guys was being chased by police then all of a sudden 5 gun shots fired it was lucky the police managed to get the under control because we never knew what could of happen and its always best to be safe and be on the ball at all times.

    one of the things i did read in this comment and it seems to be a big thing with some of us round eyes and thats women i have met a few round eyes over the past 3 years of my time here and it always seems some guys cant keep it in his pants and not even thinking about what could happen down the line i have heard of cases of some guys being arrested for rape when the truth be told it wasnt rape and sometimes its all because of money its sad but true and one bit of advice i can give is one must keep it in his pants and this is coming from a 31 year old..

    i think people who come to the philippines from the USA UK or other parts of the western world need to think of ways to protect his/her self when going out one of them is by being on the ball at all times keep your eyes wide open.

    me personaly this is how i go about my day/night out first of all when leaving the house i can take 1 of 2 ways out to the main road and when going about my trip if i goto a mall or any place i goto all the time i tend to take different routes to get to where i want to go.

    when going out i tend to take as little money with me as possible or enough to cover what i want to buy and a little extra to cover petrol or if i need to get a tire fixed if i ever need to carry a large amount of money i tend to wear a pair of shorts under what i plan to wear and i zip up any large amount of money in the pockets in the shorts so if someone do feel the need to rob me they will only get whats in the pockets seen and not whats hidden and the same for my mobile phone.

    if i ever go out for a beer i tend to goto places that has many people incase anything should happen then the chances are someone witnessed it.

    i have always found here that showing off is a big no no for example i knew of a guy who has a big mouth flashing the cash and always showing up in quite a bit of bling and that got him into some trouble when he was leaving the bar and ended up losing around 10k in cash plus all his bling.

    end of the day the philippines is a nice place and has many nice places to visit and most of the people here are really nice and will go that extra mile to help and if one keeps his/her head down dont act like they know everything and not show off then one will have a good life here.

    lastly part of my comment here was something about guns now i know us round eye cant own a gun or even carry but one thing i am trying to find out but cant seem to find any info online is what is the laws regarding taser/stun guns and is it possible we are aloud to own and carry one..

    i hope my comment didnt bore some and hope some of my input is of use and good luck and enjoy your stay here in the phils

    take care all

  30. Very balanced and well-written advice, Bob. To piggy-back on your accurate observation that so many crimes against foreigners are connected to girlfriends or household help, I’ve noticed something else. 90% or more of the foreign violence victims I have come to know of in the past 5 years I have lived here involve the bar and/or restaurant business.

    Foreigners often seem to come here with the dream of opening such a business. I advise against that. Also, hanging out in bars, even if not chasing women, is not a wise move, IMO.

    Lastly, beware also of anything high profile. A good foreigner friend, a clinical psychologist in his working life, was well known here in my province for devoted volunteer work, counselling jail inmates and former inmates in halfway house programs. Working tirelessly for the Philippine people, recieving no pay, either, by the way. A candidate for sainthood one might almost assume.

    But due to his work, he became a close associate of the provincial governor and was honored publicly at a number of politically-oriented functions (read “Photo-Ops”).

    He was found dead by a single gunshot, lying alongside his truck on a deserted stretch of highway. Th police dismissed it as a suicide. I doubt that was the case.

    High publicity notoriety and open friendship with a controversial political figure would be more my guess.

    Jealously runs rampant here, it doesn’t matter that he was a volunteer, to many, he was occupying a position and place of stature that a Filipino should have occupied.

    Also politics in the Philippines is often a very deadly business, with grudges going back generations, that no foreigner is ever likely to understand.

    Keep you head down, even when you are working for a “good cause”.

    • Dave, thanks for your kind words. You are right, I did not include the dangers of trying to operate a business here. I’ll revise the post to include that. I am determined not to be involved in any business here. So many Americans have run businesses back home and just can’t resist the urge to get involved in one here. Money lending, pig raising, beach resorts, bars and girly bars come to mind. Money lending seems especially dangerous. You’ll be in business competition with Filipinos. If you out-compete them, they’ll be resentful. You’ll be unnecessarily visible and engaged. With money lending, you’ll identify yourself as having money and having money in your home. We had an Australian into money lending murdered on our island. Below is the account of his murder.

      Whenever a foreigner is murdered foreigners and local alike try to find a way that it was the victim’s fault. According to the news reports, this gentleman, a 6’5″ retired policeman, was involved in money lending, property disputes with his neighbors and kept valuables in his house. Further new reports said the possibility of insider involvement was being investigated. Perhaps being a retired policeman and 6’5′ made him feel invulnerable. We had a 6’4″ martial arts master murdered by some teenagers in Iloilo. I think I’m safer because I’m small and timid!

      I read such reports with alarming frequency. Maybe some of these murders are solved but I think most are not. I am somewhat familiar with the Mike Mikesell case and wrote a post about it because it showed how doing good can just as dangerous as any other form of high-profile activity in the Philippines. I have a friend who is doing wonderful work helping local kids get cleft lip and cleft palate repairs. He has learned that even with that, he has to keep his head down. The murder report I mentioned is copied below.

      ROBBERY, old grudges and business rivalry are the possible motives being eyed in the murder and robbery of an Australian national in a coastal village of Ajuy early morning Tuesday. Werner Holz, 62, a retired police officer from Australia, died of more than 20 stab wounds in his chest, back and neck.
      Holz’s stab-riddled body was found past 4am yesterday in his bed inside his 1.5-hectare beach front residence at Brgy. Pili, Ajuy. Based on the testimonies of Holz’s Ilongga wife, Vivian Posadas-Holz, her husband went outside their house past 12 midnight to urinate. Five minutes after he returned to bed, three masked men wielding pistols and a knife barged inside their room. Two of the suspects immediately overpowered the 6-foot, 5-inch Holz and repeatedly stabbed him. Dr. Noel Martinez, PNP medico legal, said Holz died of 24 stab wounds in the body and neck. The third suspect then ordered Vivian to open the safety vault inside the master’s bedroom. According to the initial count by investigators, the suspects took away an estimated P200,000 cash, US$5,000 cash and P800,000 worth of jewelry from the vault. The suspects then tied up Vivian and locked her inside the comfort room. When the suspects left, the wife cried for help but the nanny of their 7-year-old son only responded to her plea around 4am. The unidentified nanny said she did not mind Vivian’s cry for help thinking that the couple were arguing inside their room. But when the nanny entered the master’s bedroom, she saw the bloodied Holz on the bed. The Holz household then asked help from their neighbors who called Pili barangay officials and tanods to the crime scene.

  31. Im english i live in uk been to dumughte 14 times no problems,
    the americans seem to worry a lot about crime lighten up enjoy yourself dont worry

  32. I would like to add my most recent experience about burglars and trespasser.

    In August 23, 2010 about 12,30 pm, Manila time, I did encounter spider man trying to climb the perimeter fence in my temporary rental property.

    Lucky for him, I was awake, downstairs, trying to make a couple of phone calls back to the States, when I heard the neighborhood dogs bark radically and my motion security lights on (two of them) , I saw this guy almost over the fence in a orange shirt and black pants.

    My first intentions was to grab my aluminum baseball bat. step outside and whack him! My common sense rule me, I opt for screaming as loud as I could ” HEY YOU MOTHER F***KER!!! Why? Because I was worry that he was working in pairs of two or both were carrying guns.

    Not only that, I choose to stay inside and do the last man stand behind my apartment walls. I stood a better chance of survival.

    The trespasser, he jump in reverse and left in hurry, not turning around and I just stood guard duty for the rest of the night until day light.

    Concerns and issues

    What could I do to improve my physical security of my home?

    I bought a home magnetic strip alarm system at Wilcom depot in Manila.

    It covers my front sliding windows and main door, it has a 150 db alarm speaker, basically it has too magnets, facing each other.

    Once the magnet seal is broken it will activate the sound alarm. It includes a magnetic tape that I’m using in the front glass window in case of breaking the glass.

    Second, I’m trying to negotiate with the landlord too fabricate a window steel gate and a steel gate door. Since this is not my property.

    I did installed a sensor movement with an audible alarm in the back of the apartment were the wet kitchen is located.

    Lately in my neighborhood, there was 2 house burglaries, One of the burglaries that took place everything was stolen from the house, while the owners were sleeping upstairs with AIR CONDITIONER!

    The second home burglary, the thieves carved themselves through the roof.

    I cant afford to move for know, because I’m building my home and it will be finish in 2 more months, yet. I do worry about my family safety and security.

    My wife’s uncle, did offer me to borrow one of his gun, I told him politely, “Uncle respectfully, the steps of the city hall are endless when you kill someone, even do, if it was in self defense. Families vendettas do up roar because everyone related to the defunct he or she was “Always an Angel”.

    I rather stick to sound and light and my beloved bat!

    I’m open for any suggestions!

    • Hi David,

      Sorry for your bad experiences. I’m surprised to hear of a Manila property without security bars on the windows. Also, you don’t mention a dog, usually a first line of defense. Maybe a dog is not possible at your place? We are not living in our house yet, but the workers do. They have three Philippine mutts. Anyone coming over the wall would receive a ferocious greeting. There are prowlers in our neighborhood, but none have dropped over the wall to brave the dogs.

      I think it’s quite common to sleep though burglaries. We had friends in Iloilo who had a break in through a second floor window with no security bars. They were in their bedroom with the aircon on and did not hear anything. The break-in was during their very first night in their rental house.

      Aside from dogs and security bars and the things you are already doing, can you make your bedroom secure, so that if they get in, at least you will not be harmed?

      The roof is always a vulnerability, no matter how well the rest of the house is secured. It seems breaking in though the roof would make some noise. Hopefully the robbers could be scared off before they can get inside. If not, then it gets really dangerous.

      Good luck!

  33. Very informative. You have scared me really good! I say good because I do understand where you are coming from. Sometimes you have to scare good since into people that have been spoiled all their life living in countries where it is difficult to see the crime that is happening around them. The US is a very dangerous place to live. I think the danger is only viewed in a different way here in the Philippines.

    I lived in a very nice neighborhood in Southern California. During the daylight hours all you really had to worry about when walking through your neighborhood in most of the city was a loose dog now and then. Night time was a different story. For the most part, probably nothing would happen if you ventured out at night but I was still very cautious when doing so. I was would worry about going out to the local McDonald’s late at night. If the food didn’t kill you, you really needed to be looking around your car to see if anyone was walking up on you to rob, kill or both.

    I have only lived here in the Philippines (permanently) for a year now. I have a very large and well respected family (by most of the locals). As it has seemed all my life I stand out for some reason. Most times I have no idea why. In this case it is mostly because we are the “rich Americans”. It seems no matter how many times and how many ways I explain to my family and friends here that not all Americans are rich (for sure not me) they just don’t believe it. I can understand why. Mostly what they see in the movies and American TV, all Americans are rich. We all have jobs, cars, homes and many toys so we must be rich. In some ways I guess we are. Although I don’t have much (can’t even pay my mortgage in the US) I have much more than most that live near me here in the Philippines.
    For the most part, what you said about not showing off what you have is very difficult when those around you are convinced no matter what you say or do, that you are rich. So what do I do? Well, before I was able to bring my wife to the US I had steel security doors made for the newly remodeled house she was living in. Concrete wall, security bars on the windows, motion sensitive lights and many four legged security alarms (as you called them). The only way in this house short of heavy equipment is the roof. If they are coming in that way, there isn’t much you can do anyway. I felt better going back to the US knowing my wife and PhilAm daughter would be safer until I could get them home to the US. You should have seen what I had to go through to get the security doors made. At that time, they were not in the hardware stores and know one understood why I wanted gates for our front and rear doors. One guy refused to do the job because he though the American must really be crazy to want such a thing. Nothing is getting through those doors. You would be better off trying to knock down the outside walls.

    My wife won’t let me go anywhere without her unless I am with one of her brothers. For the most part I am okay with that. Just as in the US we try not to walk around at night but even then most people we pass knows us and the rest of the family if they aren’t family themselves.

    With all that said, why did I chose the city I live in now? One word, DUTERTE

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  35. I dunno, I have walked the streets of Manila from dusk till dawn, something I wouldn’t be happy doing in my own home town, and yes, there were a few that tried to scam me a little, but a ready smile and more self confidence than would be prudent in many other locations, won the day/night. Most crimes I hear of are oppurtunistic and rarely life threatening, the exception being crimes of passion and drug related crime, both making the assailant unpredictable and dangerous, in any location. Personnally I think a lot of foreigners forget that they are indeed just that, foreigners, and especially after consuming alcohol, some have that mayabang male bravado air of superiority; just asking for trouble!

  36. Hi MFR,

    I’m afraid it’s not a good advice to read the forums on the net. Their info is very negative often.
    CdO is a very nice place to live if you know where to live. There are subdivisions in the hills that you might like so much. And it’s still very close to the SM Mall.
    I am Dutch and I live there now for 3 years.
    There’s no danger here, not a bit.
    The subdivision i live is called Xavier Estates: try
    to find info about it on the net.
    Of course i am not the only foreigner living here:
    you’ll find Americans, Dutch, Germans and many other
    nationalities. of course there are also Filipinos….

  37. Josh,

    Thanks for your excellent, excellent suggestions. I just have one observation based on my own happy experiences. You said “Good Filipina wives are those who are professionals, have college education.” My wife and I have been married for almost seven years. She had to quit school to work so she’s not a professional and does not have a high school degree, let alone a college degree. Nonetheless, she has integrity and intelligence. I’m so blessed to have her.

    Bob

  38. MFR,

    We strongly recommend that you join the Yahoo online group for those living in or interested in Cagayan de Oro. Just click this link http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Expats-in-Cagayan-de-Oro/ and sign up. There is a good group of expats there and the general view seems to be the CDO is one of the better Philippine retirement locations.

    Bob and Carol

  39. GENERAL INFO-

    I AM PLANNING ON MOVING TO CAGAYAN DE ORO,WITHIN A VERY FEW MONTHS–I AM A RETIREE,AND ONE THAT AFTER ALMOST 39YRS OF WORKING,IS READY FOR R/R–IS THEIR ANYONE OUT THERE THAT CAN GIVE ME INFO,OF CAGAYAN DE ORO-AND WHETHER OR NOT IT IS SAFE FOR A FOREIGNER-I HAVE LIVED 1/2 MY LIFE IN NEW YORK, AND THE OTHER 1/2 IN CHICAGO,SO I CAN WRITE VOLUMES ON CRIME-AND THE MANY GAMES THAT R PLAYED FOR A FAST BUCK-NOW I AM SEEKING SOLACE,IS C.D.O.SAFE-AND IS THEIR A CERTAIN AREA IN C.D.O.THAT SOMEONE CAN RECCOMMEND FOR SAFE LIVING???

    WITH PATIENCE
    M.F.R.

  40. I am from Iloilo, but i live here in the United States. To foreigners who live in the Philippines, i would like to make some reminders so that you can avoid being a victim while in any part of the region in the Philippines.

    1. Never assume that everything is safe in the Philippines. Always make some reservations. When you hire someone to do laundry, gardening, etc., always know where that person from. Avoid hiring someone recommended by a person that you dont know fully well. Avoid hiring someone who lives in squaters area. It is better to hire someone who came from the province.

    2. Never display your valuables in your house. It will be a point of target by burglars. Remember, any area of the Philippines, to some extent, may or may not have someone who are tempted to do crime for the sake of getting the money in an easier or shorter way. The best way to avoid this is to keep your gate close, keep guard dogs at night time, have a light on around your house at night, and make your room safe in case someone will break in.

    3. Whenever you heard someone at night outside the vicinity of your house, never go out and check, but call your trusted neighbors to wake up and let someone check it for you.

    4. If you have maids, instruct them not to allow anyone to come in or open the gate and door for them to come in during the day and night, especially if this person is a boy friend from the neighborhood that is untrustworthy.

    5. Always conduct an on the spot check of your helpers if they can be trusted or not. Remember, money is hot and it can tempt someone to do a crime. The moral is, never show that you have money or have a lot of it.

    6. Establish good relations with neighbors. The best way to do this is to become nice to them, not financially, but by being there during celebrations of birthday, wedding, and burial. If your neighbor brings gifts for occasion, you do the same in return, probably by buying cake or soda for celebration- not monetary.

    7. Before you stay in the neighborhood, make sure you know the area well by surveying the trusted opinions of the people. Let someone do it for you- educated Filipino can do the survey for you.

    8. Make sure when you choose a Filipina partner, better know the background of the woman. Never marry someone that you just met from the bar. Good Filipina wives are those who are professionals, have college education, and those that dont do bars. Those who do bars all the time are not really worth marrying for. They are there for your money- not love.

    9. Don’t shame your helpers. Filipino are sensitive. Shaming them will create rage deep inside and you dont know what they are capable of doing.

    10. Never go out alone and get drunk. You will be a target by bad guys. Never let someone get into your car. When you go home drunk, better call or let your trusted neighbor drive for you and stand by you.

    11. Always watch you back. Never go the parks alone. Most bad guys hang out in park ready to rob you or kill you.

    12. The best place to stay are areas with good neighborhoods. Never stay or live in areas that are several miles away from neighbors. You will be target of burglars.

    13. Lock your rooms when you live your house. It is better for you to let someone clean up your room when you are there.

    14. Never go home late at night alone and ride in a jeepney or taxi. You have to avoid dangers but not being in that situation.

    15. Never pick up a girl from the street or ask a hotel guy to call girls they know. Most likely there will be inside job which will happen. Girls have contacts from gangs who protect them and rob you or kill you.

    16. When you are in a hotel, always lock your room from inside and never open it when you are not trusting someone outside.

    • Totally agree, very good advice for the newby. However I have known some guys that took a girl out of the bars and they have made good wives. Normally there because of situations like having a baby and the boyfriend ran off. However I consider it a bet that does not normally pay off. as its hard to take the bar out of the girl.

      Many high school graduates make for good wives, its also better to find a girl that comes from the provenances than from cities or urban environments. Normally one finds their families are less demanding as you know when you marry a Filipina your marrying the family. I also recommend marrying the older sister as she has clout in the family. Not to live to near to the family or the grandmother and mother may be running your household. The daughter normally has an obligation to provide a small amount of money to her parents even if she lives away from home. This could cause a problem of loss of face if she can not help. I give my partner 1500 pesos each month to send to her parents. Sometimes a bit more if they need money for seed as they are farmers. Her family are great and cause me no problems.

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